And while the ad didn’t seem like it was posted by a Nigerian gentleman who might split part of a $10m loot with me, it did raise a few flags. Namely the price was too low for the car being offered. But just for fun I emailed the seller to get the scoop. Here was the response:
Hi,Does anything about this strike you as unusual? If you don’t think it’s fishy I would suggest you never buy anything again until you go to Fool School (and I don’t mean that stock investment site).
The car is still available and it's located in Gonzales, Louisiana. The price for 1991 Toyota MR2 Turbo is $2,250 and the shipping costs are included in this price. It currently has 47,200 miles, there are no rips, tears, stains or marks of any kind in or on the car. It has a clear title, no liens, never been in an accident. The engine and trans are in perfect condition, no leaks, noises or smoke, no rust, there are NO issues.
A friend of mine is a DAS employee and he can deliver the car anywhere in the US for a really good price. You will also have 5 days to inspect the vehicle. If, by any reason, the car is not as described, or if you find any problems with it, I will pay for the returning fees. I'm sure it won't be the case because it's a state of art vehicle inside and out.
If you have the funds available and want to reserve the car for you, I need your full name and the delivery address.
Best Regards,
James McNeil
PS. The VIN# is JT2SW22N9M0048994, if you want to run a carfax report
I could go on and on but here are 3 immediate red flags.
1. This car was advertised in Washington DC. Why would it be located in Louisiana? The answer is that it’s not. There’s no car. It’s pretext for fraud.
2. The poster claims the car is perfect (“There are NO issues”). If this were true why couldn’t he sell it closer to home for such a low price? And he’ll even pay for shipping to me? And take it back if I don’t like it? By the way, most CL scams seem to be for amounts under $3k, probably due to some sort of legal threshold where fraud involving larger amounts come with more penalties – that’s my hypothesis.
3. Why does he need my full name and delivery address to “reserve” the car? This isn’t Avis rent-a-car. He just needs a zip code to estimate delivery costs.
Based on this alone I wouldn’t even bother to respond to anything like this. Never provide any personal information, and never ever send any money. The only reason these scams continue is because some people fall for them.
It’s incredible how many sharks there are in used car waters. That’s the reality. So caveat emptor – twice!
The bottom line is if there’s a weird story behind it, the deal is unusual or it seems TGTBT, it probably is. With fine examples like these is it any wonder used cars have a bad rep?
It's funny I ran across this blog. I too am looking for a new used car for my daughter, found a posting on Craig's List, with a tgtbt price, and I received almost an identical response from the supposed seller!!!
ReplyDeleteHi,
The car is still available. Here is the car info: 62,700 original miles, there are no rips, tears, stains or marks of any kind in or on the car. The engine and trans are in perfect condition, no leaks, noises or smoke, no rust, there are NO issues. There are no lien or loan on the car and I'm the registered owner with the title in hand. It has a clear title ready to be signed and notarized on your name.
I recently was promoted and had to move to Norfolk, VA. The car is located in my garage in Tulsa, OK. My friend, Albert, that works with DAS delivery will help me with the shipping of the car. I've left him the garage and the car keys.
You will have the car in front of your house in 2 to 5 days, depending on your exact location. The car will arrive with all the papers and documents required for registration and the keys. You will also have 5 days to inspect the vehicle. If, by any reason, the car is not as described, or if you find any problems with it, I will pay for the returning fees. I'm sure it won't be the case because it's a state of art vehicle inside and out.
If you have the funds available and want to buy it, I need your full name and the delivery address so I can reserve the car for you.
Best Regards,
James Mcneil
PS. The VIN# is 4A3AC74H83E134179, if you want to run a carfax report. Here you can see more pictures: http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2009-12/1351064/
It's amazing how deviously creative these spammers are becoming.
ReplyDeleteThe vehicle scams have become a dime a dozen, but I've also started to notice scams in the "Free Stuff" category.
One person offered a free HP printer online, when I emailed, they said that the printer was no longer available. Shortly after, they gave me a link to get a "free teeth whitener" as somewhat of a consolation prize. Everything was done with auto-responders but it looked very realistic and well, just plain old kind.
Luckily, I was able to realize that the offer was a hoax.
You can cross check any suspicious post at http://www.searchcraigslistscams.com
it pays to spend two seconds and see if anyone else has encountered the same post!